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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Apr 8, 2004 12:13:28 GMT -5
The Rock-n-Roll board is normally the Discussion board, but to spice things up, I thought I'd put this on the Heavy Metal board.
I have a book called The New Book of Rock Lists. I thought some of them would make good discussions on here!
This particular one lists 20 important records that served as stepping stones to heavy metal, all before the first Sabbath album.
1. "How Many More Years" Howlin' Wokf 1951
2. "I'm a Man" Bo Diddlye 1955
3. "Rumble" Link Wray and his Ray Men 1958
4. "Boom Boom" John Lee Hooker 1962
5. "I Want Candy" The Strangeloves 1965
6. "Psychotic Reaction" Count Five 1966
7. "Mystic Eyes" Them 1966
8. Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix Experience
9. Journey to the Center of the Mind-Amboy Dukes
10. "Yer Blues" Beatles 1968
11. Vincebus Eruptum Blue Cheer 1968
12. Wheels of Fire-Cream 1968
13. In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida Iron Butterfly 1968
14. Led Zeppelin 1969 (also II)
15. Deep Purple 1969
16. On Time Grand Funk Railroad 1969
17. Frijid Pink 1970
18. "Mississippi Queen" Mountain 1970
19. The Who Live at Leeds 1970
20. Cactus
Pretty good list. I would include Ticket to Ride, because John Lennon called it the "earliest heavy metal record". When you think about it, it was pretty heavy, guitar wise, for 1965 AM radio. I Want Candy was more the punk side of metal.
If you include Yer Blues, you GOTTA include Helter Skelter! Not only did Pat Benatar cover it, but so did Motley Crue. Very heavy for the time.
Also, the next year, I Want You (She's So Heavy) from the Beatles.
Ironically, I have an earlier copy of this book, and there is a song called It's a Happening by the Magic Mushrooms that just barely cracked the Hot 100, and it was listed as one of the earliest heavy metal songs.
Any others you can think of? What do you think of the list?
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Apr 8, 2004 12:29:39 GMT -5
Good topic, Adam!
Interesting combination of music. I always looked at In A Gadda Da Vida as being early metal. (I'd also heard that the term Heavy Metal came from Iron Butterfly ) . But I'll be darned if songs like Psychotic Reaction don't fit the bill also. I Want Candy, however, is an interesting choice. I'm playing that song in my mind, and I would never see a metal connection, really.
Hadn't seen the name Magic Mushrooms around in years. I guess you could argue that psychadelic rock and metal came from the same source. - But that group's name and the name of the song (It's A Happening) is totally infused with the hippie/psychadelic culture. The song, I remember though (again playing it in my mind) could be considered early metal. I'll have to dig it out - I'm pretty sure I have it.
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Post by Dawn on Apr 8, 2004 12:48:22 GMT -5
Great discussion topic, Adam!
Interesting list of songs - you can definitely hear the progression toward the metal sound, especially around '67, with the Amboy Dukes and Hendrix. I'm also surprised they included 'Yer Blues' and not 'Helter Skelter' - the latter was years ahead of its time, and is without a doubt one of the heaviest songs from that era.
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Post by 55dodger on Apr 8, 2004 12:59:46 GMT -5
Good Topic Adam
Good List. I like some of the early blues influenced songs on the list - How Many More Years & Boom
I Want Candy, Psychotic Reaction, & Mystic Eyes are great songs
Hendrix, Iron Butterfly, Led Zep, Cream, & Deep Purple are obvious choices.
The Amboy Dukes is early Nugent
Frijid Pink version of House of the Rising Sun is rarely heard anymore, but is a great cover
Mississippi Queen gets a lot of airplay on my classic rock station
A couple I thought of
Revolution - Beatles
To Much To Dream Last Night - Electric Prunes
Somebody to Love - Jefferson Airplane
Born to Be Wild - Steppenwolf
The early music by the Yardbirds
Paint it Black - Stones
Just some thoughts
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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Apr 8, 2004 13:56:48 GMT -5
Good topic, Adam! Interesting combination of music. I always looked at In A Gadda Da Vida as being early metal. (I'd also heard that the term Heavy Metal came from Iron Butterfly ) . But I'll be darned if songs like Psychotic Reaction don't fit the bill also. I Want Candy, however, is an interesting choice. I'm playing that song in my mind, and I would never see a metal connection, really. Hadn't seen the name Magic Mushrooms around in years. I guess you could argue that psychadelic rock and metal came from the same source. - But that group's name and the name of the song (It's A Happening) is totally infused with the hippie/psychadelic culture. The song, I remember though (again playing it in my mind) could be considered early metal. I'll have to dig it out - I'm pretty sure I have it. Wow, you may be making me a copy H2!!  |
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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Apr 8, 2004 14:50:36 GMT -5
Good Topic Adam Good List. I like some of the early blues influenced songs on the list - How Many More Years & Boom I Want Candy, Psychotic Reaction, & Mystic Eyes are great songs Hendrix, Iron Butterfly, Led Zep, Cream, & Deep Purple are obvious choices. The Amboy Dukes is early Nugent Frijid Pink version of House of the Rising Sun is rarely heard anymore, but is a great cover Mississippi Queen gets a lot of airplay on my classic rock station A couple I thought of Revolution - Beatles To Much To Dream Last Night - Electric Prunes Somebody to Love - Jefferson Airplane Born to Be Wild - Steppenwolf The early music by the Yardbirds Paint it Black - Stones Just some thoughts Thanks Woody. Definitely the Yardbirds stuff. Even Over, Under, Sideways, Down, mostly because of the guitar work. I have read that is one of the hardest guitar riffs to play, and metal-from Jimmy Page to Eddie Van Halen to Kirk Hammett-is a guitarists medium! |
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Post by Ken on Apr 8, 2004 21:08:20 GMT -5
The Rock-n-Roll board is normally the Discussion board, but to spice things up, I thought I'd put this on the Heavy Metal board. I have a book called The New Book of Rock Lists. I thought some of them would make good discussions on here! This particular one lists 20 important records that served as stepping stones to heavy metal, all before the first Sabbath album. 1. "How Many More Years" Howlin' Wokf 1951 2. "I'm a Man" Bo Diddlye 1955 3. "Rumble" Link Wray and his Ray Men 1958 4. "Boom Boom" John Lee Hooker 1962 5. "I Want Candy" The Strangeloves 1965 6. "Psychotic Reaction" Count Five 1966 7. "Mystic Eyes" Them 1966 8. Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix Experience 9. Journey to the Center of the Mind-Amboy Dukes 10. "Yer Blues" Beatles 1968 11. Vincebus Eruptum Blue Cheer 1968 12. Wheels of Fire-Cream 1968 13. In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida Iron Butterfly 1968 14. Led Zeppelin 1969 (also II) 15. Deep Purple 1969 16. On Time Grand Funk Railroad 1969 17. Frijid Pink 1970 18. "Mississippi Queen" Mountain 1970 19. The Who Live at Leeds 1970 20. Cactus Pretty good list. I would include Ticket to Ride, because John Lennon called it the "earliest heavy metal record". When you think about it, it was pretty heavy, guitar wise, for 1965 AM radio. I Want Candy was more the punk side of metal. If you include Yer Blues, you GOTTA include Helter Skelter! Not only did Pat Benatar cover it, but so did Motley Crue. Very heavy for the time. Also, the next year, I Want You (She's So Heavy) from the Beatles. Ironically, I have an earlier copy of this book, and there is a song called It's a Happening by the Magic Mushrooms that just barely cracked the Hot 100, and it was listed as one of the earliest heavy metal songs. Any others you can think of? What do you think of the list? I agree with all the examples listed above - yeah I would have included Helter Skelter but I can see why Yer Blues was picked. Having listened to The Magic Mushrooms ' It's - a - Happening I can see why it was included in an earlier addition of the list. Rumble is a great example because there was nothing at that time that sounded that raw - great stuff. I'm in the middle of listening to The Chambers Bros - Time Has Come Today and I would add that to the list with it's driving heavy guitar and bass and that thunderous ending. |
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Apr 8, 2004 21:42:41 GMT -5
I agree with all the examples listed above - yeah I would have included Helter Skelter but I can see why Yer Blues was picked. Having listened to The Magic Mushrooms ' It's - a - Happening I can see why it was included in an earlier addition of the list. Rumble is a great example because there was nothing at that time that sounded that raw - great stuff. I'm in the middle of listening to The Chambers Bros - Time Has Come Today and I would add that to the list with it's driving heavy guitar and bass and that thunderous ending. Hey Ken!  I agree that both Its A Happening and Time Has Come Today (to a lesser degree) have some definite elements of what was to become heavy metal, but they are both, IMO, first and foremost, psychadelic rock. |
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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Apr 9, 2004 10:25:19 GMT -5
Great discussion topic, Adam! Interesting list of songs - you can definitely hear the progression toward the metal sound, especially around '67, with the Amboy Dukes and Hendrix. I'm also surprised they included 'Yer Blues' and not 'Helter Skelter' - the latter was years ahead of its time, and is without a doubt one of the heaviest songs from that era. And Paul wrote it in reaction to an article he read that the Who recorded the loudest record ever. I can't BELIEVE none of us remembered to list Vanilla Fudge!! I usually think of them along with Iron Butterfly! |
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Post by lora on Apr 13, 2004 8:41:04 GMT -5
Um...I don't really have anything to say about this post. I'm not very well-versed in the subject of heavy metal. I do think some of these songs on this list are more on the border of punk than heavy metal, but I don't really have anything to add to the post. Sorry Adam.
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Post by Ken on Apr 13, 2004 13:57:17 GMT -5
Hey Ken! I agree that both Its A Happening and Time Has Come Today (to a lesser degree) have some definite elements of what was to become heavy metal, but they are both, IMO, first and foremost, psychadelic rock. Hey H2 I totally agree |
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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Jun 8, 2004 9:43:56 GMT -5
Um...I don't really have anything to say about this post. I'm not very well-versed in the subject of heavy metal. I do think some of these songs on this list are more on the border of punk than heavy metal, but I don't really have anything to add to the post. Sorry Adam. No problem-I know it's not really your style. You are right about the punk thing. Punk & metal come so close, and at times, come together. (Faith No More is one example) |
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Post by Pete70s on Jun 23, 2004 1:01:31 GMT -5
As far as style goes, take a look at the cover of the "Steppenwolf 7" album. It's probably one of the earliest "heavy metal" album covers. The band is posed, looking like bikers (of course), standing against a landscape dominated by two giant metal skulls. You didn't see a lot of skulls in 1970..
Of course, I mention this because I just listened to the album last night..
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Post by Pete70s on Aug 31, 2006 20:36:39 GMT -5
The Rock-n-Roll board is normally the Discussion board, but to spice things up, I thought I'd put this on the Heavy Metal board. I have a book called The New Book of Rock Lists. I thought some of them would make good discussions on here! This particular one lists 20 important records that served as stepping stones to heavy metal, all before the first Sabbath album. 1. "How Many More Years" Howlin' Wokf 1951 2. "I'm a Man" Bo Diddlye 1955 3. "Rumble" Link Wray and his Ray Men 1958 4. "Boom Boom" John Lee Hooker 1962 5. "I Want Candy" The Strangeloves 1965 6. "Psychotic Reaction" Count Five 1966 7. "Mystic Eyes" Them 1966 8. Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix Experience 9. Journey to the Center of the Mind-Amboy Dukes 10. "Yer Blues" Beatles 1968 11. Vincebus Eruptum Blue Cheer 1968 12. Wheels of Fire-Cream 1968 13. In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida Iron Butterfly 1968 14. Led Zeppelin 1969 (also II) 15. Deep Purple 1969 16. On Time Grand Funk Railroad 1969 17. Frijid Pink 1970 18. "Mississippi Queen" Mountain 1970 19. The Who Live at Leeds 1970 20. Cactus Pretty good list. I would include Ticket to Ride, because John Lennon called it the "earliest heavy metal record". When you think about it, it was pretty heavy, guitar wise, for 1965 AM radio. I Want Candy was more the punk side of metal. If you include Yer Blues, you GOTTA include Helter Skelter! Not only did Pat Benatar cover it, but so did Motley Crue. Very heavy for the time. Also, the next year, I Want You (She's So Heavy) from the Beatles. Ironically, I have an earlier copy of this book, and there is a song called It's a Happening by the Magic Mushrooms that just barely cracked the Hot 100, and it was listed as one of the earliest heavy metal songs. Any others you can think of? What do you think of the list? Here goes that crazy Pete again, digging up old threads! One record I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet is "Fire" by The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The first really EVIL looking singer to make a totally EVIL record, singing about Hell and damnation, and it went to #2!!! Imagine all the stoned hippies who were tripping on acid when all of a sudden out of their radio comes: "I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE!!! AND I BRING YOU... FIRE......" Like WOW, man..... |
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Post by Laura--I wuv u all :) on Aug 31, 2006 20:53:04 GMT -5
One record I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet is "Fire" by The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The first really EVIL looking singer to make a totally EVIL record, singing about Hell and damnation, and it went to #2!!! Imagine all the stoned hippies who were tripping on acid when all of a sudden out of their radio comes: "I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE!!! AND I BRING YOU... FIRE......" Like WOW, man..... Saw a videoclip of this not too long ago--the guy had a helmet on his head with flames coming out of it, and a big eyeball painted on his stomach...yeah whatever...The song is pretty bizarre too, although I love where the horns kick in during the final chorus! |
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