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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Jun 24, 2004 14:48:41 GMT -5
Discuss.
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Jun 24, 2004 16:13:42 GMT -5
OK.... I have been a fan of Rock/Pop music since it "began" in the mid '50s. In that time I have seen only two performers have "it". One was Elvis and the other is The Beatles. "It" was the ability to totally dominate the genre for an extended period of time. Multiple entries on the charts at the same time (singles, albums, pop, R&B, country, all of the above, whatever).... headline-level media coverage ... a frenzied following..... acknowledgement as the biggest, most popular act in the business for several years...remembered with an air that is almost awe afterward. The Beatles disbanded in 1970. It has been 34 years, and "it" has not happened since. The only performer to even come close may have been Michael Jackson in the early '80s, but that didn't last. Will "it" happen again? Who knows? - probably. -- But when it does happen, there is nothing like it!  |
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Post by Ken on Jun 24, 2004 17:59:55 GMT -5
The Beatles had it BIG time!
I'll never forget when the "1" CD came out and just kicked every other current artist right in their butt - I thought that was just awesome although I can say I wasn't suprised. For a band to have that much "spark" after all these years . I mean what it all boils down to is the songs - they knew how to write' em plus the arrangments and everything were so great.
I can't see a band ever having that impact ever again , sure all bands - well most - have that time when they seem to be eveywhere. But The Beatles just had that extra special bit of magic.
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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Jun 25, 2004 9:56:20 GMT -5
When I thought up this topic, I thought I'd have a really good, lengthy, clever response myself. I really don't though.
All I know is no one had the impact they had. I think they even eclipsed Elvis. During the years they were active, Elvis had 2 top ten hits. (Maybe that was inevitable though, with the whole movie career)
Look at their first year in the biz. Tons of singles. I will go on record right now saying no artist will ever again occupy the top 5 slots on a chart. Even if charts and radio stations were like they used to be. It will never happen again. There is no question. That is an unbelievable feat.
They were the first artist that made whole albums to listen to. Not two singles, and then some filler. They were the first FM band where their album cuts were as strong-if not stronger-than their singles. And thus, their album cuts got radio play.
Consider the fact that three of their greatest and most popular albums-Rubber Soul, Sgt Pepper, and The White Album-did not have a single released from them! And those are praised as masterpieces.
Consider also that the average person, even those who AREN'T Beatles fans, know Drive My Car, In My Life, Norweigan Wood, Good Day Sunshine, Sgt Pepper, With a Little Help, Lucy in the Sky, Day in the Life, Back in the USSR, While My Guitar, Birthday, Ob-La-Di, Here Comes the Sun-and know them well-and not one of them was originally put out as a single.
Even their "failures", such as the Magical Mystery Tour TV special, are still loved. The I Am the Walrus sequence, among others, are big favorites.
They lasted the initial "teeny bopper" following that initially hit them, like Frankie Avalon & Fabian before them, and the Bay City Rollers, New Kids and Backstreet Boys after them, and STILL went on to greater success and more respect.
Go to a Beatlefest sometime. People are in LOVE with them, like it's 1965. You will feel like you are the worst Beatles fan in the world.
Ken mentioned the huge comeback with the 1 CD. What about Anthology too? I can honestly not see another artist, save perhaps Elvis, having a huge TV special, followed by 3 double discs, a double length video set (later on DVD)-all 30 plus years after their peak! They re-made the cover of Time and Rolling Stone. Let's see what they are saying about Eminem 35 years from now.
They had a magic. That's what it was. Just look at their solo careers. Good, VERY good careers. (Most artists would kill for Macca's success) And as great as stuff like Imagine, Band on the Run and All Things Must Pass are, they just couldn't keep up the quality, specialness and yes, magic that the four of them had together.
Non fans can say what they want. There will never be anything like them again.
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Post by KittyKat - RIP Luciano on Jun 25, 2004 15:39:39 GMT -5
When I thought up this topic, I thought I'd have a really good, lengthy, clever response myself. I really don't though. I think your response qualifies in all 3 of those categories. ;D I'm certainly not the biggest fan in the world by any means. I enjoy much of their music but I tend to think their pre 67 stuff is overrated actually. But I can't deny that they had "it". And I personally don't think another band will ever come close. I mean think about it - they were only together for like a decade and they haven't been a band for 34 YEARS!!! and everyone on Earth has heard of them. |
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Jun 25, 2004 15:50:12 GMT -5
Look at their first year in the biz. Tons of singles. I will go on record right now saying no artist will ever again occupy the top 5 slots on a chart. Even if charts and radio stations were like they used to be. It will never happen again. There is no question. That is an unbelievable feat. Just for the record, the five singles were: 1. Can't Buy Me Larry 2. Twist and Larry 3. She Loves Larry 4. The previously mentioned I Want To Hold Your Larry and 5. Larry Please Me Wow! what a feat! ;D |
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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Jun 25, 2004 15:55:56 GMT -5
Just for the record, the five singles were: 1. Can't Buy Me Larry 2. Twist and Larry 3. She Loves Larry 4. The previously mentioned I Want To Hold Your Larry and 5. Larry Please Me Wow! what a feat! ;D LMAO!! But I think Larry Loves You would have been a bigger hit than number 3!  |
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Post by Dawn on Jun 28, 2004 13:00:06 GMT -5
Good topic!
I agree with everything mentioned so far. They definitely had a huge impact on music, and as others have stated, I don't think there will ever be another act that will ever have the degree of musical success and recognition that the Beatles have had. Also, they had a tremendous cultural impact as well, setting new trends in fashions, hairstyles, John Lennon's glasses, etc.
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Post by Triple J on Jun 28, 2004 16:10:40 GMT -5
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Post by beatles4ever on Sept 30, 2004 14:03:57 GMT -5
The Beatles had "it" in so many ways.They came onto a scene fresh and different,in looks and style.Each an extremely talented musician in his own right,added together they were dynamite!Their minds simply burst with creativity,new ideas and directions that all of music owes so much to.Then they hooked up with George Martin and musical history was made.He opened their minds to a vastly expanded horizon,different instruments and the addition of classical influences.In my opinion,they WERE the 60s,because it was their lead that most followed as they broke new ground in both music and popular culture.
There is doubt in my mind that any other group will bring about another shift in music that is so enormous,so life-altering,as the Fab Four.
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Post by Hector on Feb 16, 2005 20:37:12 GMT -5
How about "Let it Be...Naked"? This was a great CD of all the songs from the "Let It Be" album without any background noise or discussions. It was as if it was freah from the studio. Boy bands and rappers today will be long forgotten in 20 years but The Beatles will be long remembered.
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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Feb 16, 2005 20:51:41 GMT -5
Boy bands and rappers today will be long forgotten in 20 years but The Beatles will be long remembered. I, and just about everyone else here, agrees 1000% with you! The Beatles are already in history books in schools. I sincerely doubt Eminem will be in them 50 years from now, unless it's in a negative way. |
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Post by Hector on Feb 16, 2005 21:11:04 GMT -5
I, and just about everyone else here, agrees 1000% with you! The Beatles are already in history books in schools. I sincerely doubt Eminem will be in them 50 years from now, unless it's in a negative way. I'm afraid the same could be said foor many other rap artists. As for being in the history books, let's not take away anything from artists and bands like The Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and Led Zeppelin, to name a few. |
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Post by SAT-I need more room!! on Feb 16, 2005 21:34:02 GMT -5
I'm afraid the same could be said foor many other rap artists. As for being in the history books, let's not take away anything from artists and bands like The Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and Led Zeppelin, to name a few. Oh sure! But most of the time when those artists are mentioned in general history books, it's like, "and the Beatles paved the way for artists like....." |
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Post by Hector on Feb 16, 2005 22:25:24 GMT -5
Oh sure! But most of the time when those artists are mentioned in general history books, it's like, "and the Beatles paved the way for artists like....." Can't argue with that logic. |
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