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Post by Jughead on Jan 9, 2010 11:19:40 GMT -5
I remember back in the Spring of 1988 when Tracy Chapman released her debut disc. It wound up getting a lot of critical praise and VH1 were hyping her up! It went to number one on the album chart next to metal heavyweights Def Leppard and new comers Guns N' Roses. Fast Car was one of the most played songs on the radio that summer! Tracy earned herself three grammies that year as well. But subsequent follow ups Crossroads (1989) and Songs from the Heart (1992) were seen as critical and commercial disappointments. Chapman was soon to be banished into one-hit wonder status until she released her third CD Smoke and Ashes (1995) contained the blues flavored "Give Me One Reason" and the single shot to no. three on the charts. Chapman has released other CD's since and still tours but the radio has forgotten about her. Back in the summer of 1995, singer-songwriter Alanis Morrissette released "Jagged Little Pill" her major label debut on Madonna's Maverick label. It was a huge success, eventually selling 16 million copies. The biggest debut ever for a female or artist period! It contained five singles and won her three grammies. So it's understandable that the next release would have a challenging time of reaching those heights. When "Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie" - say that fast three times - was released in Oct. 1998, the CD sold about 400,000 copies in it's first week to debut at no. one! The album went on to sell three million copies, but only contained only one major radio hit, "Thank U". It's sad considering there were many other great songs, yet they received very little airplay. The CD isn't as strong as her debut but does contain one of my favorite Alanis songs: "That I Would Be Good". Alanis still continues to release good music, but it will be a challenge for her to reach the status of her debut. But Jagged Little Pill wasn't Alanis' true "debut" album. It may have been for Madonna's Maverick label in the U.S., but she released two albums in Canada before Jagged Little Pill...one in 1991, one in 1992. Although, in Canada her '91 album was a huge hit, with lots of Canadian top 40 songs. |
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Post by Sith Penguin on Jan 9, 2010 12:47:49 GMT -5
not that old of a band, but i'd have to go with bloc party. their first album, "silent alarm", was very political, but somehow that seemed to mesh well with the sound. it's somewhat punk rock'ish, but more energetic and either a little darker or upbeat at times. their second album strayed very far away from that, and although quite enjoyable, it somehow didn't live up to the raw power the first album held. their third album made up for the fact by blending the two styles to form their current sound, but in my opinion, nothing will ever be as good as their early stuff.
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Post by Ken on Jan 9, 2010 14:10:27 GMT -5
"Bat Out Of Hell" seemed to be one of those albums that everybody had a copy of back in the late 70's.I remember hearing "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad" and "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" on a regular basis. I recall about seven or eight years ago, while I was out hunting for records I actually came upon a sealed copy of the album and I couldn't believe it!  In my travels I've seen numerous copies that had been played to death, so to actually see an unopened copy just seemed to me, to be kind of cool, btw I did buy it.  and it's still sealed. I've always wondered about the value of buying and selling sealed music, Ken. I guess everyone takes it on faith that the vinyl inside that covering is indeed Bat Out of Hell. I mean, how do you know that someone didn't mistakenly put a copy of Michael Bolton's Greatest Hits inside? ;D Nooooo! lol!   |
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Post by Dawn on Jan 9, 2010 20:20:05 GMT -5
"Bat Out Of Hell" seemed to be one of those albums that everybody had a copy of back in the late 70's.I remember hearing "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad" and "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" on a regular basis. I recall about seven or eight years ago, while I was out hunting for records I actually came upon a sealed copy of the album and I couldn't believe it! In my travels I've seen numerous copies that had been played to death, so to actually see an unopened copy just seemed to me, to be kind of cool, btw I did buy it. and it's still sealed. I've always wondered about the value of buying and selling sealed music, Ken. I guess everyone takes it on faith that the vinyl inside that covering is indeed Bat Out of Hell. I mean, how do you know that someone didn't mistakenly put a copy of Michael Bolton's Greatest Hits inside? ;D Actually, I remember hearing years ago about an instance where someone had opened an album from what they thought was one of the easy listening artists (I'm thinking it was either Johnny Mathis or Pat Boone, or if not, it was someone along those lines) and the disc turned out to be of the Sex Pistols. |
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Post by Dawn on Jan 9, 2010 20:26:44 GMT -5
I remember back in the Spring of 1988 when Tracy Chapman released her debut disc. It wound up getting a lot of critical praise and VH1 were hyping her up! It went to number one on the album chart next to metal heavyweights Def Leppard and new comers Guns N' Roses. Fast Car was one of the most played songs on the radio that summer! Tracy earned herself three grammies that year as well. But subsequent follow ups Crossroads (1989) and Songs from the Heart (1992) were seen as critical and commercial disappointments. Chapman was soon to be banished into one-hit wonder status until she released her third CD Smoke and Ashes (1995) contained the blues flavored "Give Me One Reason" and the single shot to no. three on the charts. Chapman has released other CD's since and still tours but the radio has forgotten about her. Back in the summer of 1995, singer-songwriter Alanis Morrissette released "Jagged Little Pill" her major label debut on Madonna's Maverick label. It was a huge success, eventually selling 16 million copies. The biggest debut ever for a female or artist period! It contained five singles and won her three grammies. So it's understandable that the next release would have a challenging time of reaching those heights. When "Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie" - say that fast three times - was released in Oct. 1998, the CD sold about 400,000 copies in it's first week to debut at no. one! The album went on to sell three million copies, but only contained only one major radio hit, "Thank U". It's sad considering there were many other great songs, yet they received very little airplay. The CD isn't as strong as her debut but does contain one of my favorite Alanis songs: "That I Would Be Good". Alanis still continues to release good music, but it will be a challenge for her to reach the status of her debut. But Jagged Little Pill wasn't Alanis' true "debut" album. It may have been for Madonna's Maverick label in the U.S., but she released two albums in Canada before Jagged Little Pill...one in 1991, one in 1992. Although, in Canada her '91 album was a huge hit, with lots of Canadian top 40 songs. That's interesting about Alanis; like Dave, I was under the impression that Jagged Little Pill was her first release. In any event, that was certainly a landmark album - much like Hootie and the Blowfish, those "Jagged" singles were all over the radio in the mid '90s. I own the CD - picked it up used at a yard sale - but I have to admit, I've never listened to it all the way through. "Ironic" is still a favorite, though. |
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Post by Jughead on Jan 9, 2010 22:53:16 GMT -5
Be prepared to be frightened then. ;D
From 1991, here's "Walk Away" by Alanis, which can also be found as part of the soundtrack to the movie "Problem Child 2".
As you can see, she was part of a...different genre... ;D
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Jan 11, 2010 11:01:58 GMT -5
How about Meat Loaf? If you discount his duet album with Shaun Stoney Murphy, called "Stoney and Meat Loaf" his solo debut album was of course, Bat Out of Hell. It produced four hit singles, Two Out of Three Ain't Bad, Paradise By The Dashboard Light, You Took The Words Right Out of My Mouth, and the title track. It is the 4th largest selling album in the world ever. It is also in my Top 10 favorite albums - but that's not important. The point is, that Meat never came close to having another album nearly as good - either in quality or in popularity. The closest he came was with two sequels Bat out of Hell 2 and 3. - And they were not nearly as good. But the original was a magnificent production. Just a little bit of trivia I learned while researching something on a different site. The other half of the duet on the 1971 "Meat Loaf and Stoney" album to which I referred is Shaun "Stoney" Murphy, who was the lead singer for Little Feat from 1993-2009. |
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Post by Ken on Jan 11, 2010 12:43:26 GMT -5
I've always wondered about the value of buying and selling sealed music, Ken. I guess everyone takes it on faith that the vinyl inside that covering is indeed Bat Out of Hell. I mean, how do you know that someone didn't mistakenly put a copy of Michael Bolton's Greatest Hits inside? ;D Actually, I remember hearing years ago about an instance where someone had opened an album from what they thought was one of the easy listening artists (I'm thinking it was either Johnny Mathis or Pat Boone, or if not, it was someone along those lines) and the disc turned out to be of the Sex Pistols. Wow! |
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Post by Dawn on Jan 11, 2010 13:29:05 GMT -5
Actually, I remember hearing years ago about an instance where someone had opened an album from what they thought was one of the easy listening artists (I'm thinking it was either Johnny Mathis or Pat Boone, or if not, it was someone along those lines) and the disc turned out to be of the Sex Pistols. Wow! Can you imagine the person's reaction when they put the disc on to play? Definitely not what they were expecting! I'm guessing the swapping of the records in that case was a practical joke on the part of someone at the pressing plant, given that the artists are such polar opposites. Still, mistakes do happen... |
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Post by Railyn on Jan 11, 2010 23:02:07 GMT -5
Edie Brickell and New Bohemians - "Shooting Rubber Bands At The Stars"
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No Doubt- "Tragic Kingdom"
While both groups had a release (independent and limited) prior to the above mentioned albums, IMO, the above mentioned albums are their commercial debut.
Edie Brickell never saw success like she did with "Shooting", and while No Doubt went on to do well, "Tragic" was a mega popular album, and it outsold their "2nd" release (The Return Of Saturn) and was probably comparable to the "3rd" album (Rock Steady), it seemed that by the time "Rock Steady" came out, their audience was more devoted fans than the "everyone" vibe from the "Tragic Kingdom" days.
If that made any sense. My mind is muddled right now.
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Post by Dawn on Jan 12, 2010 10:33:38 GMT -5
Edie Brickell and New Bohemians - "Shooting Rubber Bands At The Stars" and No Doubt- "Tragic Kingdom" While both groups had a release (independent and limited) prior to the above mentioned albums, IMO, the above mentioned albums are their commercial debut. Edie Brickell never saw success like she did with "Shooting", and while No Doubt went on to do well, "Tragic" was a mega popular album, and it outsold their "2nd" release (The Return Of Saturn) and was probably comparable to the "3rd" album (Rock Steady), it seemed that by the time "Rock Steady" came out, their audience was more devoted fans than the "everyone" vibe from the "Tragic Kingdom" days. If that made any sense. My mind is muddled right now. Edie's style was very different from most of the pop artists recording at that time, and it's a shame she couldn't keep the momentum going after that debut. I'm not familiar with The Return of Saturn, but it sounds like No Doubt may have experienced the "sophomore slump" that some artists do. |
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Post by daniel on Jan 29, 2010 1:52:23 GMT -5
"Bat Out Of Hell" seemed to be one of those albums that everybody had a copy of back in the late 70's.I remember hearing "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad" and "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" on a regular basis. I recall about seven or eight years ago, while I was out hunting for records I actually came upon a sealed copy of the album and I couldn't believe it! In my travels I've seen numerous copies that had been played to death, so to actually see an unopened copy just seemed to me, to be kind of cool, btw I did buy it. and it's still sealed. I've always wondered about the value of buying and selling sealed music, Ken. I guess everyone takes it on faith that the vinyl inside that covering is indeed Bat Out of Hell. I mean, how do you know that someone didn't mistakenly put a copy of Michael Bolton's Greatest Hits inside? ;D Because that would just be a blank disc! |
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and it's still sealed. 
