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Post by H2IZCOOL on Oct 27, 2009 15:14:43 GMT -5
I found this link and a discussion over in the Refugee's site. emac.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/1....oll/?test=faces It shows data that country music has become more popular than Rock and Roll. While I have come to like more country music than I used to, I find this blog to be quite biased in its description of rock and roll. It actually makes me quite angry. |
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Post by Jughead on Oct 27, 2009 21:08:26 GMT -5
I never liked country music at all, so this kind of surprises me...but it seems like country music is getting a bit more creative as a whole...it's no longer your "my dog died, my dad died, my pig died, my truck died" anymore. ;D
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Post by smittykins--70s pop RULES! on Oct 28, 2009 6:22:27 GMT -5
I never liked country music at all, so this kind of surprises me...but it seems like country music is getting a bit more creative as a whole...it's no longer your "my dog died, my dad died, my pig died, my truck died" anymore. ;D Don't forget "my wife left me and my kids ran away"!  |
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Oct 28, 2009 8:17:58 GMT -5
I never liked country music at all, so this kind of surprises me...but it seems like country music is getting a bit more creative as a whole...it's no longer your "my dog died, my dad died, my pig died, my truck died" anymore. ;D Don't forget "my wife left me and my kids ran away"! ...and I'm left here standing knee-deep in sheep-dip, barefooted. ;D Yeah. Most country music isn't like that any more, and its boundaries with rock which have often been soft, are basically nonexistent. Then there's the fact that (c)rap and hip-hop have impinged on rock's other boundary, resulting, I think, in many of us being pushed more to the country edge. I enjoy some country, and can tolerate most of it. I just don't get hip-hop and I don't want to. |
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Post by Dawn on Oct 28, 2009 13:07:48 GMT -5
I don't know that it is necessarily more popular than rock, but it certainly seems to be gaining. Awards shows like the CMAs and CMTs seem to be as highly publicized as the Grammys these days.
Then again, as you said Ed, the boundaries between the two have been blurred considerably. One example - have any of you heard Carrie Underwood's new song, Cowboy Casanova? Take out the fiddles and (possibly) change the lyrics of the song, and you've got an almost straightforward rock song similar to what Pat Benatar was doing in the '80s. Very little resemblance to the country of old such as Merle Haggard, Loretta Lynn and George Jones. Actually, Mark and I have kinda been on an "old country" kick for the past few weeks or so, ever since he discovered a local classic country station known as "The Toad." (There's a sister station, "The Frog," that plays new country.)
Top 40 is a disaster these days. There's a Subway near our house that we stop in fairly often, and they always have a top 40 station playing in the background. In the 30 minutes it takes to order and eat our meals, I'm lucky if I hear one song that's tolerable. I look at the top album listings in USA Today and barely recognize half the artists.
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Post by jpkansas on Oct 28, 2009 16:38:40 GMT -5
I never liked country music at all, so this kind of surprises me...but it seems like country music is getting a bit more creative as a whole...it's no longer your "my dog died, my dad died, my pig died, my truck died" anymore. ;D Q: What happens when you play a country music song backwards? Q: You get your dog back, your truck back, your trailer back and your wife back. |
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Post by Ken on Oct 28, 2009 23:22:00 GMT -5
I never liked country music at all, so this kind of surprises me...but it seems like country music is getting a bit more creative as a whole...it's no longer your "my dog died, my dad died, my pig died, my truck died" anymore. ;D Hey Juggy  LOL!  |
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Post by Ken on Oct 28, 2009 23:23:13 GMT -5
I never liked country music at all, so this kind of surprises me...but it seems like country music is getting a bit more creative as a whole...it's no longer your "my dog died, my dad died, my pig died, my truck died" anymore. ;D Q: What happens when you play a country music song backwards? Q: You get your dog back, your truck back, your trailer back and your wife back. LOL |
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Post by Ken on Oct 28, 2009 23:38:29 GMT -5
I agree with what Dawn has said. Much of the so called "country" music that has been released in the last several years has swung more and more towards rock than the traditional country sound.
I like alot of it, but have to admit that much of it after awhile sounds
alike.
A couple of years ago I heard a track by (I believe) Emerson Drive and it reminded me of a cross between early 70's Doobie Brothers and Lynyrd Skynyrd.
A lot of pop / rock musicians I've read have moved to Nashville in recent years. Badfinger's Joey Molland was planning on moving there late last year, because he has become friends with many of them. Sadly his wife Kathie passed away suddenly earlier this year, and so I think those plans have now stalled.
I also don't think that country is necessarily selling more albums than rock but it definitely is VERY, VERY popular.
And yes, Top 40 radio is a complete disaster with many music fans running for the hills and searching for something easier on the ears.
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Oct 29, 2009 9:31:01 GMT -5
Both Dawn and Ken mentioned Top 40 radio. What is it these days? I've glanced at the Bullboard ---uh Billboard  Hot 100 chart from time to time and like Dawn said about the album chart, I hardly recognize any of the names. It seems to be heavily laced with rap based on the fact that the words in the title are usually spelled wrong. (It was cute when Sly Stone or Slade did it, but enough is enough!) That's the only way I know it's rap. I really don't know what the rest is - bland pop maybe? Is there any rock in there at all. Is there any country in there for that matter? Of course, the Company Web Weasel is blocking me from opening any Billboard website, so I can't post their Top 10 from here.  |
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Post by Dawn on Oct 29, 2009 12:35:47 GMT -5
I too have noticed the misspelled titles and artist names, and I agree, it is annoying. It was probably intended to be cool and edgy, but when everyone is doing it, it kinda misses the point.
I wonder how much of it is due to the "text-ese" that's becoming more prominent now that texting is so popular. Some of the posts and comments I see on the 'net are hard to read, because of all the abbreviations and such.
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Post by gremashlo on Oct 31, 2009 8:47:26 GMT -5
Does rock even EXIST anymore? I know that "rock and roll" has been dead for decades...country music is a field that has shown the most stability, and that determination NOT to change is both lauded and insulted.
Country has really had only three seismic shifts--Hank Williams, the "countrypolitan" movement, and the "hats", which led to country being closer to the Eagles today than Norvel Felts.
Meanwhile, rock and pop has split so many different ways that it is unrecognizeable--the fact that Billboard offers a top ten for seemingly EVERY different form of popular music (to keep music bigwigs happy of course) just enforces the split. County winds up filling in the gaps left.
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Post by cairnterrier on Nov 5, 2009 20:51:58 GMT -5
I think that today's country has become a substitute for what rock was in the 70's and 80's. The sound you hear in many country acts today are similar to what was considered rock during the 70's and 80's. Bands like The Eagles, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, The Doobie Bros, and even Van Halen and AC/DC have influenced the sound that is heard in today's country acts. And with fans of the bands who were popular in the 70's and 80's not happy with what is considered to be rock today, have turned towards country and its sound that is recognizable and able to be related to.
While there are lots of "purist" country acts still out there....the influx of people now listening to "retro-rock-country" have given them plenty of exposure with their music all being played on the same stations.
And for the state of rock and roll....in my opinion, rock does not have the quality today as it did back a few decades ago. Sorry, thumping popish players trying to rock out a-la American Idol style just aint rock and roll! Nor are thrash-rock screamers. In fact what can be classified as rock and roll nowadays?
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Hot 100 chart from time to time and like Dawn said about the album chart, I hardly recognize any of the names. It seems to be heavily laced with rap based on the fact that the words in the title are usually spelled wrong. (It was cute when Sly Stone or Slade did it, but enough is enough!) That's the only way I know it's rap. I really don't know what the rest is - bland pop maybe? Is there any rock in there at all. Is there any country in there for that matter? 
