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Post by daniel on Oct 31, 2011 3:49:26 GMT -5
I'll admit, I generally prefer the 45 version of a song. Album versions seem, to me, to have a lot of "filler" -- long instrumental bits, repeated choruses that add nothing to the song, etc. However, there are some album versions that justify the 5:00+ length. This is my list of cases where I think the LP version is far superior to the single edit, what are other's opinions? Gerry Rafferty-Baker Street. The edited version cutting that sax intro is a CRIME! Don McLean-American Pie (Technically, the 45 splits the song in two, but I think every second of the 8 minutes is needed!) George Michael-Father Figure (I think this was edited for radio on release, though most stations play the LP version now. Was this edited on a commercial 45?) More irritating to me are radio versions that were never released commercially -- such as the radio version of Roxette's "Listen To Your Heart" with a sax solo not found on any commercial release.  |
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Oct 31, 2011 10:03:06 GMT -5
I'll admit, I generally prefer the 45 version of a song. Album versions seem, to me, to have a lot of "filler" -- long instrumental bits, repeated choruses that add nothing to the song, etc. However, there are some album versions that justify the 5:00+ length. This is my list of cases where I think the LP version is far superior to the single edit, what are other's opinions? Gerry Rafferty-Baker Street. The edited version cutting that sax intro is a CRIME! Don McLean-American Pie (Technically, the 45 splits the song in two, but I think every second of the 8 minutes is needed!) George Michael-Father Figure (I think this was edited for radio on release, though most stations play the LP version now. Was this edited on a commercial 45?) More irritating to me are radio versions that were never released commercially -- such as the radio version of Roxette's "Listen To Your Heart" with a sax solo not found on any commercial release. Hi Daniel. Welcome back! I think there are two different animals here. Instances where the single version is simply an edited version of the album track, and instances when the single and album versions are totally different takes. Edited versions: I understand, but don't agree with the need for stations to edit songs. Unless you are editing out 5 minutes of fade out or something like that, you are changing and in some cases ruining the song. Case in point: "You Keep Me Hanging On" - Vanilla Fudge. Granted, the album version is nearly 7 minutes long, but the edited version seems like nothing but ramdom chopping. The words no longer rhyme nor make sense. But hey! They got it under three minutes! Another example is Eagles' "Best of My Love." The last part of the song goes: ".... I guess we always had eachother baby; I guess it wasn't enough, But here in my heart, you get the best of my love, Ohhh ohhh ohhh ohhh sweet darlin', You get the best of my love...." and so on to fade. The radio edit eliminated the line: "But here in my heart, you get the best of my love," No other changes. It takes less than 10 seconds to sing that line -plus, considering the song's theme, it may be the most important line in the song. Why do that?? Different Versions: My best example is The Doors' Light My Fire. The album and single versions are totally different recordings. Although I prefer the album version, I can easily listen to either. The single is a complete entity unto itself. |
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Post by daniel on Oct 31, 2011 11:06:47 GMT -5
That's a good point, and I suppose in my sleep-deprived state I was thinking more of edits that simply shorten the LP version. When they add things to the mix in the 45 version, then it does create a different line of discussion.
Another one I thought of was Don Henley's "Heart Of The Matter", the edited version deletes the whole verse that starts with "I'm learning to live without you now..." and picks up at the chorus. The missing verse detracts from the song, IMO.
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Oct 31, 2011 15:20:20 GMT -5
That's a good point, and I suppose in my sleep-deprived state I was thinking more of edits that simply shorten the LP version. When they add things to the mix in the 45 version, then it does create a different line of discussion. Another one I thought of was Don Henley's "Heart Of The Matter", the edited version deletes the whole verse that starts with "I'm learning to live without you now..." and picks up at the chorus. The missing verse detracts from the song, IMO. I'm not quite sure what your saying, Daniel. Are you saying that removing that verse detracts from the song, or are you saying including that verse detracts from the song? I don't think I've heard the edited version. I stopped listening to most broadcast radio long ago, and I have only heard the song on satellite radio (I think). Anyway, I don't think I've heard the song without that verse, and I can't imagine how taking it out would improve the song. (Unless one equates shorter with improvement.) |
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Post by daniel on Oct 31, 2011 19:26:13 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant REMOVING the verse takes away from the song! I always listened to it on my CD (or album) but when the tape player in the car went I got stuck listening to radio only. I was singing along one day and when it got to that part I felt ripped off!
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Nov 8, 2011 10:51:36 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant REMOVING the verse takes away from the song! I always listened to it on my CD (or album) but when the tape player in the car went I got stuck listening to radio only. I was singing along one day and when it got to that part I felt ripped off! That's why I only listen to music I downloaded myself. That way I'll always be listening to a non-edited version - and my favorite version if there are more than one. |
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Post by daniel on Nov 14, 2011 22:31:54 GMT -5
My other half just found a gizmo that will broadcast MP3's from a memory stick through the FM radio. This might be the solution to my busted tape player. During the day, I'm fine, as there's a locally owned AM station that playes mostly decent Oldies with 3 or 4 minute spot clusters. At night, their signal goes away (They're Akron based so I'm out of the DMA) and I'm stuck with the "12 in a row... 12 commercials, that is" FM stations.
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Post by H2IZCOOL on Nov 15, 2011 9:57:51 GMT -5
My other half just found a gizmo that will broadcast MP3's from a memory stick through the FM radio. This might be the solution to my busted tape player. During the day, I'm fine, as there's a locally owned AM station that playes mostly decent Oldies with 3 or 4 minute spot clusters. At night, their signal goes away (They're Akron based so I'm out of the DMA) and I'm stuck with the "12 in a row... 12 commercials, that is" FM stations. Daniel, could you tell me something about the device that broadcasts MP3s on a memory stick through FM? Home or car or both? What is the device and where can you buy it? Thanks. |
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